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Tuesday, September 17th 2013, 7:16am

Gunner PvP stigmas

Hello ladies and gents.

I'm all ears on this topic.

Currently i`m on the following build: http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaogkerahfeacaihfalgdfmatg
I've been pondering on this though: http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaogkerahfeacaihfabgmatgae

-400 magic suppression and a Aether Hold option are simply too good to pass by for pvp, in my humble opinion (BUT YOU'RE GIVING UP ON EXTRA PVP DAMAGE STIGMAS YOU FOOL - my logic shouts)

I'm playing with 25-45 ms and switching weapons is not an issue for me.

Whatcha guys think would be the best ?

I'd also like some insight on godstones. Cristal did mention that KR gunners use ?dmg?silence?blind? godstones.
And on cannon 2% 1880. He made me feel sorry I put up 1% 3760 on my Kamara's Aether cannon QQ.
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Tuesday, September 17th 2013, 9:34am

Why would you not use "between the eyes"?
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Tuesday, September 17th 2013, 1:53pm

i use full pistol BUILD with the SPIRIT canon stigma and that BOOST stigma MAgic power .
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Tuesday, September 17th 2013, 4:04pm

I'm just L60 atm, But I was thinking of going full pistol + spirit + asp for sure. Maybe adding frost to that.
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Tuesday, September 17th 2013, 4:33pm

Most koreans use aetherhold cannon.
I'm guessing cuz people there got maxed out gear, and it's kinda hard to kill someone without cannon DMG. Once you AH someone, there's no going out. But it's kinda 1v1 duel style build.

For now, full pistol tree works well for me. Not planning to change it in any close future.

Spirit Cannon/Missile Guide is nice but it's mostly used for pve. not pvp.

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Tuesday, September 17th 2013, 4:56pm

I barely to never use my cannons in PvP, it's slow and easy to interrupt. It's nice to jumpshot your insta cannons tho, adds really nicely but switching to cannon is a bit slow...

I haven't seen all skills of the gunner yet, but having the attack speed skill + the full pistol tree means so much constant burst dps. Add dmg or para to that and omnomnom
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Tuesday, September 17th 2013, 9:43pm

Using this http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkecaratglgdffaqdma

Serving me well so far, Frozen Blitz is nice too but meh.

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Wednesday, September 18th 2013, 10:50am

Hihi haha

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkemaratglgdffaqdbg


Juggernaut Cannon FTW, Dot/Low Msup/low cd/waste of pot

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Wednesday, September 18th 2013, 12:34pm

That juggernaut cannon is just too sweet, ain't it ?
-400 msup is just <3
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Wednesday, September 18th 2013, 12:59pm

That juggernaut cannon is just too sweet, ain't it ?
-400 msup is just <3

Hihi haha

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkemaratglgdffaqdbg


Juggernaut Cannon FTW, Dot/Low Msup/low cd/waste of pot

If you have enough MA it is great. If you dont better this way http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkecaratglgdffaqdma
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Wednesday, September 18th 2013, 5:00pm

I'm currently using:

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkehfratglgdffaqdae

altho i'm strongly doubting to change to:
http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnacaraogeakeihtglgdffaqdbg

I don't find the 10% bonus attack speed worth the slot...
I'd rather get the aetherhold for extra cc then.

I'm not entirely sure about the 300 bonus MA buff.. i don't find fitting because for pvp i prefer slotting mostly MA
(in which case that juggernaut cannon would come in handy for the -400 magic supp)

Any thoughts?

This post has been edited 2 times, last edit by "[NICK]jagon" (Sep 18th 2013, 5:14pm)


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Friday, September 20th 2013, 9:04am

Since I got kamara cannon + some 65 gold fused, the cannon itself has enough macu.
I reach 1.9k without foods.

And this is what I stuck with: http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkehfmatglgdffabgae
When I will reach 1.2 attack speed without stable stance, i`ll swap it with survival instinct and that'll be my final pvp build.
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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 7:02pm

I'm currently using:

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkehfratglgdffaqdae

altho i'm strongly doubting to change to:
http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnacaraogeakeihtglgdffaqdbg

I don't find the 10% bonus attack speed worth the slot...
I'd rather get the aetherhold for extra cc then.

I'm not entirely sure about the 300 bonus MA buff.. i don't find fitting because for pvp i prefer slotting mostly MA
(in which case that juggernaut cannon would come in handy for the -400 magic supp)

Any thoughts?

IMO - don't socket mostly MA as a Gunner. It's really not necessary, MB does so much more for us. I have scrub tier gear at the moment reaching ~1.8k MA and I hit everyone except full mres targets or sins with full buffs. For those Sighting does the trick. Even if you get baited into using it early, the CD is effectively just 40 secs. It's a great skill.

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 8:28pm

I'm currently using:

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkehfratglgdffaqdae

altho i'm strongly doubting to change to:
http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnacaraogeakeihtglgdffaqdbg

I don't find the 10% bonus attack speed worth the slot...
I'd rather get the aetherhold for extra cc then.

I'm not entirely sure about the 300 bonus MA buff.. i don't find fitting because for pvp i prefer slotting mostly MA
(in which case that juggernaut cannon would come in handy for the -400 magic supp)

Any thoughts?

IMO - don't socket mostly MA as a Gunner. It's really not necessary, MB does so much more for us. I have scrub tier gear at the moment reaching ~1.8k MA and I hit everyone except full mres targets or sins with full buffs. For those Sighting does the trick. Even if you get baited into using it early, the CD is effectively just 40 secs. It's a great skill.

Slotting MA? Was that a joke?

I have 1900 (+300) macc on gunner with 0 MA stones, you do not need MA on gunner at all, if you socket any, you are a durrr.

Gunner suffers from low magic boost, with good weapon +10 and set of strife for example magic boost 28, you will have around 2850, thats pretty low still.

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeahfihkeogmaaetglgfadfqd Ideal stigma set for gunner.

The +10 ASPD is huge, with it, you have 49% attack speed, which is almost cap (50% is cap), there is a huge difference between having 1.4 attack speed and 1.12 my friend.

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 8:46pm

I'm currently using:

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkehfratglgdffaqdae

altho i'm strongly doubting to change to:
http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnacaraogeakeihtglgdffaqdbg

I don't find the 10% bonus attack speed worth the slot...
I'd rather get the aetherhold for extra cc then.

I'm not entirely sure about the 300 bonus MA buff.. i don't find fitting because for pvp i prefer slotting mostly MA
(in which case that juggernaut cannon would come in handy for the -400 magic supp)

Any thoughts?

IMO - don't socket mostly MA as a Gunner. It's really not necessary, MB does so much more for us. I have scrub tier gear at the moment reaching ~1.8k MA and I hit everyone except full mres targets or sins with full buffs. For those Sighting does the trick. Even if you get baited into using it early, the CD is effectively just 40 secs. It's a great skill.

Slotting MA? Was that a joke?

I have 1900 (+300) macc on gunner with 0 MA stones, you do not need MA on gunner at all, if you socket any, you are a durrr.

Gunner suffers from low magic boost, with good weapon +10 and set of strife for example magic boost 28, you will have around 2850, thats pretty low still.

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeahfihkeogmaaetglgfadfqd Ideal stigma set for gunner.

The +10 ASPD is huge, with it, you have 49% attack speed, which is almost cap (50% is cap), there is a huge difference between having 1.4 attack speed and 1.12 my friend.

I'm gonna guess you either misread my post or are replying to the wrong guy cause I said DON'T socket MA.

With 1900 MA you will not hit mres targets reliably without Sighting though, and chain skill interrupts through resist are quite bad for Gunner damage output. I would not advise dropping it unless you have over 2k MA.

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Saturday, September 21st 2013, 9:45pm

I'm currently using:

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeaihogkehfratglgdffaqdae

altho i'm strongly doubting to change to:
http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnacaraogeakeihtglgdffaqdbg

I don't find the 10% bonus attack speed worth the slot...
I'd rather get the aetherhold for extra cc then.

I'm not entirely sure about the 300 bonus MA buff.. i don't find fitting because for pvp i prefer slotting mostly MA
(in which case that juggernaut cannon would come in handy for the -400 magic supp)

Any thoughts?

IMO - don't socket mostly MA as a Gunner. It's really not necessary, MB does so much more for us. I have scrub tier gear at the moment reaching ~1.8k MA and I hit everyone except full mres targets or sins with full buffs. For those Sighting does the trick. Even if you get baited into using it early, the CD is effectively just 40 secs. It's a great skill.

Slotting MA? Was that a joke?

I have 1900 (+300) macc on gunner with 0 MA stones, you do not need MA on gunner at all, if you socket any, you are a durrr.

Gunner suffers from low magic boost, with good weapon +10 and set of strife for example magic boost 28, you will have around 2850, thats pretty low still.

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeahfihkeogmaaetglgfadfqd Ideal stigma set for gunner.

The +10 ASPD is huge, with it, you have 49% attack speed, which is almost cap (50% is cap), there is a huge difference between having 1.4 attack speed and 1.12 my friend.

I'm gonna guess you either misread my post or are replying to the wrong guy cause I said DON'T socket MA.

With 1900 MA you will not hit mres targets reliably without Sighting though, and chain skill interrupts through resist are quite bad for Gunner damage output. I would not advise dropping it unless you have over 2k MA.
True , but that happens like with one out of 20 people, even against MR targets, i hit most people that have 2.3k MR almost perfectly, and anything higher than 2.3k MR is considered overgeared.

And no, wasnt talking about you.

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Sunday, September 22nd 2013, 9:50am

Well, thanks for the pointers.
I chose to socket one piece Macu +16 and the rest Mboost, solely because I don't have the 65 pvp jewelry yet (-alot of MA)

Also, Lawful, your stigma tree is pretty much the same as what I used to use, except for Survival vs Rapid Fire (both have their merits).

I'm going out for pvp in the following setup at the moment and I'm luving it: http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaeahfihkeogmadftglgfabgae
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Monday, September 23rd 2013, 8:47am

http://aion.aspirine.su/stigma/#iCnaearaihkeogmapatglgfadfqd this setup i use atm
would be nice to get the aetherhold canon stigma but... that survival instinct help me a lottt many times
maybe i will exchange the SPIRIT CANON stigma for Frozen CANON but dont know yet, atm that stigma setup SUITS me best..
FULL PISTOL TREE + survival instinct and SPIRIT CANON (or FROZEN CANON.)
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Monday, September 23rd 2013, 11:11am

Just get a 2nd set BM weapons fully Mag.A for high mres players.
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Monday, September 23rd 2013, 1:32pm

Just get a 2nd set BM weapons fully Mag.A for high mres players.


Awesome idea, really. Thank you!
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