About Loot/Kinah/weekly sale- Mod Answer

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    • About Loot/Kinah/weekly sale- Mod Answer

      So as most of all know there is no longer any loot like eternal or mytich World drops etc out in nosra or estera anymore, this camed with the patch as Kr had too counter bots, but it affect all of us why put something like that, that do effect all of us other players, its your job too remove the bots in an way that dont affect us players, so this fix was just an lazzy way too do it, and it destroy all of us other players that normaly grind mobs and doing quests etc too get some extra loot too extract and manastones etc.

      Some ppl say but hey the loot is better in instaces now maybe so but what about the cds for the instaces then? ive got all on cd now, now what? And they say its easyer making kinah now cause davea gear also gives higer kinah now, what about the old crap sales weekly limit then? how are we supose make kinah pls tell me? Iam sure as hell aint gonna buy some reset instaces scrool for 49kk or 49 aion coins just too be Abel too make 1 more run for some Little items, if i wouldnt need the mytichal supplements il could sell them, but again weekly sales limit so thats not possbiel.

      Logged on today and was complety out of ideas what too do in game with all instaces cds done etc, cant go grind no loot, so what motivates me too be on? iam trying too gear my new alt and get stones and all but its out of question.

      So mod pls inform me what you gonna do about current problems??

      1. weekly sales limit??? if you aint changing bk the loot too nosra estera as Before then give us unlimit sales then, so we can at least sell our supps.
      2. Instances still cd for all, few runs then hole week we need wait why? why we cant enter then unlimited?

      The list here can be soo much longer about many problems but il keep it short this time.
    • Mean while in my situation:
      _ Before bed time :"Why there still alot of things to do, i did not do any arena yet, ok leave it for tomorrow!"
      _ The following day :"wow i just finished 1 library of knowledge, arena now? Hell naw i"m so tired and those weekly in upper abyss still untouched also wednesday is coming, what? Tomorrow i will do them all then!"
      _ Today: Still struggle to fully finish quests in a garrision...

    • Healermovetime wrote:

      Mean while in my situation:
      _ Before bed time :"Why there still alot of things to do, i did not do any arena yet, ok leave it for tomorrow!"
      _ The following day :"wow i just finished 1 library of knowledge, arena now? Hell naw i"m so tired and those weekly in upper abyss still untouched also wednesday is coming, what? Tomorrow i will do them all then!"
      _ Today: Still struggle to fully finish quests in a garrision...
      I know this feeling, every day when I log in I gotta do rift, luna, garrisons, runatorium, bmr, adred, swb AND siege... and if there's some time left maybe some adma/lab/library/garden... no time even for arenas... let alone esterra quests/grind... all this in 6-7h of gameplay... no time.. not to mention now that garrisons are x3 and since they give a lot of exp, they're priority after rift/luna X_X
    • LonestarX wrote:

      Healermovetime wrote:

      Mean while in my situation:
      _ Before bed time :"Why there still alot of things to do, i did not do any arena yet, ok leave it for tomorrow!"
      _ The following day :"wow i just finished 1 library of knowledge, arena now? Hell naw i"m so tired and those weekly in upper abyss still untouched also wednesday is coming, what? Tomorrow i will do them all then!"
      _ Today: Still struggle to fully finish quests in a garrision...
      I know this feeling, every day when I log in I gotta do rift, luna, garrisons, runatorium, bmr, adred, swb AND siege... and if there's some time left maybe some adma/lab/library/garden... no time even for arenas... let alone esterra quests/grind... all this in 6-7h of gameplay... no time.. not to mention now that garrisons are x3 and since they give a lot of exp, they're priority after rift/luna X_X
      Well this is about making kinah and you need too set an priority exp quest ap from hp from bmr etc, or an day were you spam all instances il got plenty of time too do it, but as the thread says there is not much too make kinah now.
    • pervertpeewee wrote:

      LonestarX wrote:

      Healermovetime wrote:

      Mean while in my situation:
      _ Before bed time :"Why there still alot of things to do, i did not do any arena yet, ok leave it for tomorrow!"
      _ The following day :"wow i just finished 1 library of knowledge, arena now? Hell naw i"m so tired and those weekly in upper abyss still untouched also wednesday is coming, what? Tomorrow i will do them all then!"
      _ Today: Still struggle to fully finish quests in a garrision...
      I know this feeling, every day when I log in I gotta do rift, luna, garrisons, runatorium, bmr, adred, swb AND siege... and if there's some time left maybe some adma/lab/library/garden... no time even for arenas... let alone esterra quests/grind... all this in 6-7h of gameplay... no time.. not to mention now that garrisons are x3 and since they give a lot of exp, they're priority after rift/luna X_X
      Well this is about making kinah and you need too set an priority exp quest ap from hp from bmr etc, or an day were you spam all instances il got plenty of time too do it, but as the thread says there is not much too make kinah now.
      I agree.. exp wise it's fine but I'm poor AF...
    • Each GoK run gives 3 armor chests and weapon chest (4 items to extract) + what you win on roll. x4 runs. Do LoK, it takes now 20 mins. If you have everything on CD go on alt. LoK is easy to do now, don't even need gear. And korea don't need to tackle bots, botting is allowed there.
    • pervertpeewee wrote:

      So as most of all know there is no longer any loot like eternal or mytich World drops etc out in nosra or estera anymore, this camed with the patch as Kr had too counter bots, but it affect all of us why put something like that, that do effect all of us other players, its your job too remove the bots in an way that dont affect us players, so this fix was just an lazzy way too do it, and it destroy all of us other players that normaly grind mobs and doing quests etc too get some extra loot too extract and manastones etc.
      As I already wrote in another thread: we actually have no information that the drops were completely removed - they were simply nerfed once more due to the reasons you already named. The situation was already rather bad before and thats why we added the drop boost. With this new nerf, we will look into the numbers again and make adjustments to the boost if needed. I only mention this point again, as its quite relevant to how we can apporach this: if the drops were completely removed, a drop boost would be useless. Besides that, a drop boost of course also influence all other drops, like crafting materials for example - so it still has its value.

      Still, as you would actually like to up the sell limit as you feel it is not high enough right now, I don´t even really see the connection here - obviously there is stuff to sell, so more open world drops would actually not help in this scenario. ;) Still, also a valid request of course. We will have to take a look at the overall data regarding this, to check if it is necessary to do so.

      All the best,
      - Andarys
    • @Andarys
      The connection between open world drops and weekly kinah limit is pretty simple.
      You can sell those gears on broker to make some kinah. You can disenchant those gears for crafting stones and so on.
      If there is no open world drop, there will be nobody to farm open world, so less crafting materials (such as spirit stone of eternity) will be available on broker.
      That will lead to an increase in their price, while the kinah limit is still in place.

      As for information regarding drop rates, refer to my thread "drop rate tests".
      But in short, no, theyaren't completely removed, they are just incredibly nerfed.

      On a side note, they were crap for a very long time now, even with the boost.
    • Helkeheri wrote:

      @Andarys
      If there is no open world drop, there will be nobody to farm open world, so less crafting materials (such as spirit stone of eternity) will be available on broker.

      That will lead to an increase in their price, while the kinah limit is still in place.
      What He said. How am I supposed to up my crafting on a new server where nobody farms cos there are no drops? I know the spirit stones do drop. but people will not farm 1 hour to get 10 of those and sell for 50k each ...

      And you need like 10 million spirit stones of eternity (no joking here).
    • i bought all the scrolls i needed with kinah
      did 240p around 3rd of january, havent rly leveled up above yet as i dont need more than that for the time being
      but the spirit stones are the least of your issues :D
      the materials from the npc together with the prices of mats that were relatively cheap when i bough em costed me 8.7bil or something like that(dont rememember anymore, u could check i posted it somwhere in the crafting subforum/thread)
    • t0re wrote:

      i bought all the scrolls i needed with kinah
      did 240p around 3rd of january, havent rly leveled up above yet as i dont need more than that for the time being
      but the spirit stones are the least of your issues :D
      the materials from the npc together with the prices of mats that were relatively cheap when i bough em costed me 8.7bil or something like that(dont rememember anymore, u could check i posted it somwhere in the crafting subforum/thread)
      Yeah. Joy. Games are getting closer to real life. it's all about MONEY MONEY MONEY ...

      But. even if you have money. where do you get the spirt stones if nobody farms them ? Hang on, of course. Buy it form the shop with 'REAL MONEY'
    • nono, for the past half year we've been flooded with events that give large amount of both spirit stones
      on the new server u wont have them for now but with the next 1-2 events it should be ok i guess
    • pervertpeewee wrote:



      Logged on today and was complety out of ideas what too do in game with all instaces cds done etc, cant go grind no loot, so what motivates me too be on? iam trying too gear my new alt and get stones and all but its out of question.

      So mod pls inform me what you gonna do about current problems??


      go and find a job or go and Learn something and you will see how many instances on cd will you have left on tuesday.
      Will strike fear, for beer.


      "cheats are like a Viagra for those who just can't"
    • Epiphory wrote:

      pervertpeewee wrote:

      Logged on today and was complety out of ideas what too do in game with all instaces cds done etc, cant go grind no loot, so what motivates me too be on? iam trying too gear my new alt and get stones and all but its out of question.

      So mod pls inform me what you gonna do about current problems??
      go and find a job or go and Learn something and you will see how many instances on cd will you have left on tuesday.
      What it seems is that AION is his job... :rolleyes:

      Well .. there will always be people who think like they have nothing to do because they done everything.. and then, there will be people like me which didnt even do luna yet because of real life.. :huh:
    • To look at this rationally....

      The quests that give the 1.5k cash reward.. 6 of them that most can do, more if higher level, these can now be done every day. Should only take 10 15 mins each, if others are not doing and no asmo are hunting.

      Drops and xp in instances have been improved.

      But... many people have limited time and if needing to grind for other crafting materials like the natural energy and spirit stones it makes sense to be able to get some drops to make powder and crafting stones at the same time. Not spend x hours grinding mobs in open world then have to wait, make group, wait on cool downs etc to do instances to get powder and crafting stones.

      you need 10 crafting stones to make 100 scrolls.... even with buff amulets you need to craft 200 or 300 scrolls to make 1 crafting skill point. t0re was not joking when he quoted costs if buying these things. I do not buy them I grind for them.

      Maybe I am being short sighted and there are better ways to manage my time. There is so much to do in game now, even with all the time I put in I could never get through all things in a day.