Request a mini patch for changing Aethertech Armour from Chain to Plate before patch 7.0

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    • Request a mini patch for changing Aethertech Armour from Chain to Plate before patch 7.0

      It has already become obvious at how soul destroying to players who enjoy the aethertech class that patch 6.0/6.2 has done in regards to finding groups for instances.

      Prior to this patch, the AT's armour was different from a cleric's as that always used to have Healing Boost added as an additional stat, so it was always obvious who it should go to. Now in this patch, there is now a class war between Clerics and ATs because of the armour drop. Clerics have put up with AT's in Holy Tower, however once they move onto Prometun's Workshop, they have started to refuse to have the AT class in their group, unless the AT swears on their life they will only roll on Magic Leather and not the Magic Chain drops.

      This has started to make it extremely difficult for AT's to find groups, unless the AT can organise one, and even then they have to find a friendly cleric who won't mind them rolling. For me, I have to take clerics and gunners who are already partly geared, and I only roll on pieces they already have. All other classes are optional to take into the instances, a Cleric isn't so why should they be able to dictate the group makeup.

      Until we get patch 7.0, the entire AT class is going to be forcibly discriminated against in instances for magic chain drop. Is there a way that GF can ask for a mini patch to introduce Magic Plate armour early by adding magic plate armour to the drops in HT and Prometun, and enabling tech's to wear plate instead of chain (adding an npc for players to swap their chain gear for plate (without losing stones/enchants).

      I'm not holding out any hope for it to be done, but clearly NCSoft in Korea has made the change in 7.0 because of this issue, and if you don't ask you don't get, so am asking on behalf of all the techs in game.
    • Keymaker wrote:

      It has already become obvious at how soul destroying to players who enjoy the aethertech class that patch 6.0/6.2 has done in regards to finding groups for instances.

      Prior to this patch, the AT's armour was different from a cleric's as that always used to have Healing Boost added as an additional stat, so it was always obvious who it should go to. Now in this patch, there is now a class war between Clerics and ATs because of the armour drop. Clerics have put up with AT's in Holy Tower, however once they move onto Prometun's Workshop, they have started to refuse to have the AT class in their group, unless the AT swears on their life they will only roll on Magic Leather and not the Magic Chain drops.

      This has started to make it extremely difficult for AT's to find groups, unless the AT can organise one, and even then they have to find a friendly cleric who won't mind them rolling. For me, I have to take clerics and gunners who are already partly geared, and I only roll on pieces they already have. All other classes are optional to take into the instances, a Cleric isn't so why should they be able to dictate the group makeup.

      Until we get patch 7.0, the entire AT class is going to be forcibly discriminated against in instances for magic chain drop. Is there a way that GF can ask for a mini patch to introduce Magic Plate armour early by adding magic plate armour to the drops in HT and Prometun, and enabling tech's to wear plate instead of chain (adding an npc for players to swap their chain gear for plate (without losing stones/enchants).

      I'm not holding out any hope for it to be done, but clearly NCSoft in Korea has made the change in 7.0 because of this issue, and if you don't ask you don't get, so am asking on behalf of all the techs in game.
      Think 2 classes rolling on same gear is bad? How bout cloth with 3 classes, or.... is it 4 in 7.0 if the new class is also magic type cloth xD Start the group yourself, take 1 cleric only, and no gunner... So you can mix gear between magic chain and magic leather as they aren't really different at all (Minor Pdef loss, most bosses magic type anyway)
    • First of all the new class rolls on exclusive gear to itself, PHYSICAL Cloth gear.

      Secondly, if you receive the Plate patch right now you are irreversibly screwed because you won't be able to use the current gear to my understanding, of course I might be wrong or the translation was incorrect because google translate but you are supposed to turn in your gear as soon as the servers are live as you can't use your old chain gear anymore.

      What you're basically asking is a feature incompatible with the current expansion, and if they can do that I see absolutely no reason why they can not fast-forward to the Painter launch here in EU but in 6.2 or 6.5, as it's the same concept behind the implementation. (But they would probably start straight away from tier 2 gear level while the other classes would be stuck to tier 1, this would also be the case for AT I assume).
    • Rym wrote:

      First of all the new class rolls on exclusive gear to itself, PHYSICAL Cloth gear.

      Secondly, if you receive the Plate patch right now you are irreversibly screwed because you won't be able to use the current gear to my understanding, of course I might be wrong or the translation was incorrect because google translate but you are supposed to turn in your gear as soon as the servers are live as you can't use your old chain gear anymore.
      Yeah, what I am suggesting is not to get the 7.0 plate patch, but for them to create new magic plate at the current level for AT's to use now, so basically turning all current AT gear from Chain to plate.
    • im an AT myself, and has much i understand the frustration, the truth is, there is no Magical plate yet, so it would be a big loss of dps.

      Putting magical plate available would only create more problems, i mean, they cant even fix simple stuff, can you imagine adding items 2 patches ahead?

      Alternatif, roll for magical leather, they basicly the same, only diference is a bit more phsycial defence on chain and a bit more magical defence on leather, but tbh this diference is so little is not worth troubling yourself, other than that no diference at all, and yes this would mean having a group with no gunners.

      AT's are the only class that can use 2 types of gear and i guess ncsoft did it this exactly for the complaint that you say :)

      dont worry thou in 6.5 AT's will get 130% buff in pve, bringing them to the table of best dps classes
    • [NICK]papichulo wrote:

      im an AT myself, and has much i understand the frustration, the truth is, there is no Magical plate yet, so it would be a big loss of dps.

      Putting magical plate available would only create more problems, i mean, they cant even fix simple stuff, can you imagine adding items 2 patches ahead?

      Alternatif, roll for magical leather, they basicly the same, only diference is a bit more phsycial defence on chain and a bit more magical defence on leather, but tbh this diference is so little is not worth troubling yourself, other than that no diference at all, and yes this would mean having a group with no gunners.

      AT's are the only class that can use 2 types of gear and i guess ncsoft did it this exactly for the complaint that you say :)

      dont worry thou in 6.5 AT's will get 130% buff in pve, bringing them to the table of best dps classes
      Yeah, Best DPS class with clerics refusing to take u as they scared u will roll on 'Their' Gear. but it's funny how they are 2 faced and happy for all other classes to double up on their armour but not them.
    • That's because humans are selfish and greedy beings, you'd do the same if you played cleric and so would I. My friends barely grasp why I don't like doing prometun and funnily enough they don't have roll conflicts so it's obvious they wouldn't understand what the problem is.
    • We don't know how much it takes in ressources/time to make "new" items, but if it's possible, to duplicate the plate armor that we have currently in instances (HT and Prometun) and have the copy with magical stats, just swapping the physicals for magicals and leaving the other stats, and give plate armor passive to wear it, and like leave the plate skin as it is, for not too much work as it's just two armor sets.

      I think if they want they could do it, it's not like creating brand new item and since there's still 6.5 and 7.0 is way ahead of us, for a definitive answer we need GF to ask them and see what NCSoft thinks. This would be a custom mini patch for us, I'm sure NA would want it too.
    • Keymaker wrote:

      [NICK]papichulo wrote:

      im an AT myself, and has much i understand the frustration, the truth is, there is no Magical plate yet, so it would be a big loss of dps.

      Putting magical plate available would only create more problems, i mean, they cant even fix simple stuff, can you imagine adding items 2 patches ahead?

      Alternatif, roll for magical leather, they basicly the same, only diference is a bit more phsycial defence on chain and a bit more magical defence on leather, but tbh this diference is so little is not worth troubling yourself, other than that no diference at all, and yes this would mean having a group with no gunners.

      AT's are the only class that can use 2 types of gear and i guess ncsoft did it this exactly for the complaint that you say :)

      dont worry thou in 6.5 AT's will get 130% buff in pve, bringing them to the table of best dps classes
      Yeah, Best DPS class with clerics refusing to take u as they scared u will roll on 'Their' Gear. but it's funny how they are 2 faced and happy for all other classes to double up on their armour but not them.

      Thats why you don't ''ask'' them, you make a party, if the cleric is being douche, you take another instead. They should have nothing to complain with just 1 class to share a roll with, if they do, just run with someone else and build the group yourself... Plenty of clerics around this patch, and prome doesn't even need a cleric, Skilled chanter can heal it easy.
    • Alucinor wrote:

      Keymaker wrote:

      [NICK]papichulo wrote:

      im an AT myself, and has much i understand the frustration, the truth is, there is no Magical plate yet, so it would be a big loss of dps.

      Putting magical plate available would only create more problems, i mean, they cant even fix simple stuff, can you imagine adding items 2 patches ahead?

      Alternatif, roll for magical leather, they basicly the same, only diference is a bit more phsycial defence on chain and a bit more magical defence on leather, but tbh this diference is so little is not worth troubling yourself, other than that no diference at all, and yes this would mean having a group with no gunners.

      AT's are the only class that can use 2 types of gear and i guess ncsoft did it this exactly for the complaint that you say :)

      dont worry thou in 6.5 AT's will get 130% buff in pve, bringing them to the table of best dps classes
      Yeah, Best DPS class with clerics refusing to take u as they scared u will roll on 'Their' Gear. but it's funny how they are 2 faced and happy for all other classes to double up on their armour but not them.
      Thats why you don't ''ask'' them, you make a party, if the cleric is being douche, you take another instead. They should have nothing to complain with just 1 class to share a roll with, if they do, just run with someone else and build the group yourself... Plenty of clerics around this patch, and prome doesn't even need a cleric, Skilled chanter can heal it easy.
      prometun with only a chanter?? what are u smoking??
    • magebaby wrote:

      Alucinor wrote:

      Keymaker wrote:

      [NICK]papichulo wrote:

      im an AT myself, and has much i understand the frustration, the truth is, there is no Magical plate yet, so it would be a big loss of dps.

      Putting magical plate available would only create more problems, i mean, they cant even fix simple stuff, can you imagine adding items 2 patches ahead?

      Alternatif, roll for magical leather, they basicly the same, only diference is a bit more phsycial defence on chain and a bit more magical defence on leather, but tbh this diference is so little is not worth troubling yourself, other than that no diference at all, and yes this would mean having a group with no gunners.

      AT's are the only class that can use 2 types of gear and i guess ncsoft did it this exactly for the complaint that you say :)

      dont worry thou in 6.5 AT's will get 130% buff in pve, bringing them to the table of best dps classes
      Yeah, Best DPS class with clerics refusing to take u as they scared u will roll on 'Their' Gear. but it's funny how they are 2 faced and happy for all other classes to double up on their armour but not them.
      Thats why you don't ''ask'' them, you make a party, if the cleric is being douche, you take another instead. They should have nothing to complain with just 1 class to share a roll with, if they do, just run with someone else and build the group yourself... Plenty of clerics around this patch, and prome doesn't even need a cleric, Skilled chanter can heal it easy.
      prometun with only a chanter?? what are u smoking??
      Tobacco only. A chanter with their daevonian aoe heal skill, + healing boost can very easily solo heal prometun, and is usually the choice for 4-people parties as healer due also increasing the partys dmg and having shields and HP buffs.
    • Alucinor wrote:

      magebaby wrote:

      Alucinor wrote:

      Keymaker wrote:

      [NICK]papichulo wrote:

      im an AT myself, and has much i understand the frustration, the truth is, there is no Magical plate yet, so it would be a big loss of dps.

      Putting magical plate available would only create more problems, i mean, they cant even fix simple stuff, can you imagine adding items 2 patches ahead?

      Alternatif, roll for magical leather, they basicly the same, only diference is a bit more phsycial defence on chain and a bit more magical defence on leather, but tbh this diference is so little is not worth troubling yourself, other than that no diference at all, and yes this would mean having a group with no gunners.

      AT's are the only class that can use 2 types of gear and i guess ncsoft did it this exactly for the complaint that you say :)

      dont worry thou in 6.5 AT's will get 130% buff in pve, bringing them to the table of best dps classes
      Yeah, Best DPS class with clerics refusing to take u as they scared u will roll on 'Their' Gear. but it's funny how they are 2 faced and happy for all other classes to double up on their armour but not them.
      Thats why you don't ''ask'' them, you make a party, if the cleric is being douche, you take another instead. They should have nothing to complain with just 1 class to share a roll with, if they do, just run with someone else and build the group yourself... Plenty of clerics around this patch, and prome doesn't even need a cleric, Skilled chanter can heal it easy.
      prometun with only a chanter?? what are u smoking??
      Tobacco only. A chanter with their daevonian aoe heal skill, + healing boost can very easily solo heal prometun, and is usually the choice for 4-people parties as healer due also increasing the partys dmg and having shields and HP buffs.
      now u up the lvl and say there are 4 man groups to prometun with only chanter healing?? make a youtube video and u will get instantly famous with the strategy explained... There is no proof of it ever been done, and u speak like it is an easy thing. Waiting here with a link to the video till then or else i call BS....
    • Prometun does not need any strategy. Tank and spank in it’s purest form it gets boring. And yes, there have been 4 man groups with only chanter healing. If u think it can’t be done, probably you think a Templar can’t dps either. Blasphemy! All it takes is good dps and a decent management of cd’s. Easy instance.